I really liked "Love & Monsters" (I actually think it's a very clever riff on fandom, and Marc Warren = love :)
That's what it was, too. A lovely little nod to fandom, a gentle poke filled with love.
even he couldn't overcome the cheese of the "You need a doctor"
Nooooo, I love that line. It's so Nine, because he's that goofy/cheesy playing-at-being-a-man -- it's perfect, IMHO. I grin every time I watch it. :p
Right, I grin. I shouldn't grin; I should swoon. That moment requires swooning, not a cheesy line. Yes, Nine goes for the cheese, but it just did NOT work for me there at all.
I like John Simm, he's a great actor, very charismatic. Still, I way, way preferred Sir Derek Jacobi over him and really wished that Jacobi had just stayed as the Master.
I'll go even further than you: John Simm ruined DW S3.
Oh, I wouldn't go that far; I just think that the concept of TSotD and TLotTL were just bad, bad, bad ... especially wizened, wrinkly Doctor sitting out, all passive and totally lame, only to come back and cradle the dying Master in a case that simply seemed to design to give slashers a screencap to love for all time.
Seriously. The whole Master storyline was odd and ill-conceived, and tonally really weird, and fandom was completely distracted by teh hawtness of Master/Doctor OTP!!!1111 to call it out for what it was: RTD's worst finale arc EVAH.
Yeah! But that's not Simm's fault. It's RTD's.
Derek Jacobi as the Master would've eliminated about 65% of the problem. 3x12-3x13 (and 3x11, to an extent) had too many big personalities (DT, JS, JB) that plot became secondary/unimportant (to both RTD and the viewers :/ )
Oh, I don't agree at all. (Of course I don't think JB has a big personality at all. I don't get anything but meh on this guy. I just don't -- and that was even before I read his completely unprofessional and frankly stupid dissing of CE.) Big personalities can work together and create amazing stuff (DT and CT, for instance), it was the story, the concept, etc. There were some fabulous things in the final two eps, but it just fell apart and didn't hold together. You know how much I adore RTD, but this stinker's on him.
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Date: 2008-08-19 05:04 pm (UTC)That's what it was, too. A lovely little nod to fandom, a gentle poke filled with love.
even he couldn't overcome the cheese of the "You need a doctor"
Nooooo, I love that line. It's so Nine, because he's that goofy/cheesy playing-at-being-a-man -- it's perfect, IMHO. I grin every time I watch it. :p
Right, I grin. I shouldn't grin; I should swoon. That moment requires swooning, not a cheesy line. Yes, Nine goes for the cheese, but it just did NOT work for me there at all.
I like John Simm, he's a great actor, very charismatic. Still, I way, way preferred Sir Derek Jacobi over him and really wished that Jacobi had just stayed as the Master.
I'll go even further than you: John Simm ruined DW S3.
Oh, I wouldn't go that far; I just think that the concept of TSotD and TLotTL were just bad, bad, bad ... especially wizened, wrinkly Doctor sitting out, all passive and totally lame, only to come back and cradle the dying Master in a case that simply seemed to design to give slashers a screencap to love for all time.
Seriously. The whole Master storyline was odd and ill-conceived, and tonally really weird, and fandom was completely distracted by teh hawtness of Master/Doctor OTP!!!1111 to call it out for what it was: RTD's worst finale arc EVAH.
Yeah! But that's not Simm's fault. It's RTD's.
Derek Jacobi as the Master would've eliminated about 65% of the problem. 3x12-3x13 (and 3x11, to an extent) had too many big personalities (DT, JS, JB) that plot became secondary/unimportant (to both RTD and the viewers :/ )
Oh, I don't agree at all. (Of course I don't think JB has a big personality at all. I don't get anything but meh on this guy. I just don't -- and that was even before I read his completely unprofessional and frankly stupid dissing of CE.) Big personalities can work together and create amazing stuff (DT and CT, for instance), it was the story, the concept, etc. There were some fabulous things in the final two eps, but it just fell apart and didn't hold together. You know how much I adore RTD, but this stinker's on him.